Xcal2 Tuners Questions

[CDR Stang]

I'm about ready to buy a tuner for my car, but I'm somewhat confused. One Xcal2 you have sells for $379 and another sells for $499. From what I can see, they are the same. Except the $499 model is for non-factory forced induction and includes remote tuning. But an earlier email I received from VMP said they really don't do remote tuning anymore. So if you don't do remote tuning anymore, should I just buy the $379 tuner? Please explain to me the differences between this two products.

I will be installing the supercharger the end of May and will be getting a dyno tune. But I will need a tune so I may drive the car to the tuner. The blower will be manually locked in bypass mode so it will not create any boost untill I get it to the dyno. But I will need a tune to adjust the ecc for the other things I will have on the car.

[Justin@VMP]

I'm about ready to buy a tuner for my car, but I'm somewhat confused. One Xcal2 you have sells for $379 and another sells for $499. From what I can see, they are the same. Except the $499 model is for non-factory forced induction and includes remote tuning. But an earlier email I received from VMP said they really don't do remote tuning anymore. So if you don't do remote tuning anymore, should I just buy the $379 tuner? Please explain to me the differences between this two products.

I will be installing the supercharger the end of May and will be getting a dyno tune. But I will need a tune so I may drive the car to the tuner. The blower will be manually locked in bypass mode so it will not create any boost untill I get it to the dyno. But I will need a tune to adjust the ecc for the other things I will have on the car.

The 499 device includes the additional labor for remote tuning, the 379 does not. Your car either needs dynotuning or remote tuning to run right (and safe) with a blower. I do remote tuning on a limited basis now for some setups. If you get the 379 device for a blower car then it will come with a very very conservative tune just to get you to the dyno.

You may also want to consider the pro racer software and tuning the car yourself.

Thanks,

[CDR Stang]

The 499 device includes the additional labor for remote tuning, the 379 does not. Your car either needs dynotuning or remote tuning to run right (and safe) with a blower. I do remote tuning on a limited basis now for some setups. If you get the 379 device for a blower car then it will come with a very very conservative tune just to get you to the dyno.

You may also want to consider the pro racer software and tuning the car yourself.

Thanks,

Where can I get more information about tuning the car myself and the steps involved? What kind of learning curve is there to this? The last time I did any car tuning, it was on Holley carbed v8s adjusting needles, jets and float by pulling the sparkplugs. Does the racer's package come with one of those spiffy digital a/f gauges?:)

Tom

[Justin@VMP]

I have an $899 x2/racer/wbo2 package on my site that includes an LC-1 wideband, you can add a digital guage to that for $220 more.

You could buy the racer manual and read through that.

[CDR Stang]

Buying the $75 manual to see if I want to but the racer's package is an option. I'm actually looking for something as a rudimentary tutorial to tuning with this software and hardware, not the actual nuts and bolts, but something that I can review. Right now I need more information about this type of tuning and its complexities before I'll be willing comit $900+ to this purchase. So any help you can give me will be appreciated.

Tom

[Justin@VMP]

Buying the $75 manual to see if I want to but the racer's package is an option. I'm actually looking for something as a rudimentary tutorial to tuning with this software and hardware, not the actual nuts and bolts, but something that I can review. Right now I need more information about this type of tuning and its complexities before I'll be willing comit $900+ to this purchase. So any help you can give me will be appreciated.

Tom

I can't say there is a real good overview out there on the net, if you are good at grasping concepts then it won't be too hard to learn.

[CDR Stang]

So is it possible for someone who can grasp the concepts who owns an Xcal2 with the wideband connector and a laptop to tune their own auto with a blower? Or is this racer's software required?

[Justin@VMP]

So is it possible for someone who can grasp the concepts who owns an Xcal2 with the wideband connector and a laptop to tune their own auto with a blower? Or is this racer's software required?

Need the racer software, the x-cal2 on device adjustments are really only enough to tweak a car.

[CDR Stang]

Need the racer software, the x-cal2 on device adjustments are really only enough to tweak a car.
Is a laptop needed in the car in order to work with the PRP? I have a laptop but the battery is not the greatest. Can a desktop computer be used or does the computer have to be in the car. If so, I think I could use a car adapter with the laptop.

[Justin@VMP]

Laptop in the car not required, but makes things much easier.